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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: Restart problem |
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clean install xp.
Firstspot install.Login page appears and can surf the internet.No problems,everything works.
Restart firstspot or update any parameters which require restart and user is shown as logged in but not possible to connect to internet.Redirect page goes nowhere.
Restart computer and public NIC tries forever to get IP address.
Can somebody please offer some help as to what may be wrongly configured.
Have looked in registry and no offloading options are shown for either adapter.All other services mentioned in the documentation have been disabled or set to the required setting for the first startup.
What gets me is that the first startup goes perfectly with no errors or problems and then nothing works.
I fully accept that I must be doing something wrong on the basis of "garbage in,Garbage out" BUT WHAT!!
Any help would be more than welcome.
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alan Forum facilitator
Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 4435
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Maybe your network is not configured properly? To obtain IP for your public nic, issue:
ipconfig/release
ipconfig/renew
BTW, the offloading issue only affects the private side (but not the public side).
If you still have issue, you should just uninstall/reinstall FirstSpot. _________________ ~ Patronsoft Limited ~ |
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canary
Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Restart problem |
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Ok,ipconfig/release worked ok but when i tried ipconfig/renew i got the message "rpc server not available"
De-installed firstspot and still have the same problem when i re-install.
I have now done two clean installs xp and always the same problem.It works fine until I restart Firstspot and then no internet access.I have internet access before and if i connect another computer to the router i have also access to the internet.
Any help welcome. |
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canary
Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: Restart problem |
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Still having problems with restarting.
With a clean install of xp and both Nics showing connected and no problem to access the internet with Explorer.I then install Firstspot and using the sample user can connect to the internet with a laptop through the hotspot.If I restart firstspot i can connect to the AP and also get the login screen and can login also.At this point I am also shown as user in the configuration panel of firstspot and the info box shows me as connected.I cannot however connect to the internet anymore.On the computer which is running Firstspot it is still possible to access the internet using my normal browser and both Nics show as being connected.
My settings are as follows when firstspot is started:
DNS.....disabled....Started
DHCP....disabled...Started
Routing and remote......Manual.......started
ICS.......manual.......stopped
Qos.....is not checked
IIS and www publishing do not seem to be present
My router has DHCP activated and the AP has DHCP deactivated.
If I restart the computer the Public Nic cannot obtain a IP and just keeps trying and trying.
Obviously something is not configured correctly,BUT WHAT?
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dominic Forum facilitator
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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For easier locating the problem, please follow these steps and post the details here if you stuck in any of them.
1) Have a clean install of XP SP2 on FirstSpot machine
2) Modify the status and startup type of the following services if necessary
- DHCP Client: Started, Automatic
- DNS Client: Started, Automatic
- Routing and Remote Access: Stopped, Manual
- Windows Firewall/ICS: Stopped, Manual
3) Enable both public and private NICs, make sure public NIC get a valid IP through DHCP
4) Run the command "ping patronsoft.com" and post the result here
5) Install FirstSpot
6) Repeat step 4 after installation completes
7) Check the services listed in step 2 again, post here if they've any changes
8) Reboot the machine
9) Run the command "ipconfig /all" and post the result here
10) Repeat step 4 again
11) Turn off the DHCP service of your own router in private network
12) Start FirstSpot using FirstSpot's DHCP and check if the following services are started
- ISC BIND
- PatronSoft FirstSpot DHCP Server
- PatronSoft FirstSpot Dispatcher
- PatronSoft FirstSpot Redirector
- Routing and Remote Access
13) Run the following commands in client machine and post the results here
- ipconfig /release
- ipconfig /renew
- ping patronsoft.com
14) Login in client machine using sample account and check if client side is able to access the Internet
15) Restart FirstSpot and repeat both steps 13 and 14
16) Stop FirstSpot and reboot the machine
17) Repeat steps 9 and 4 again |
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canary
Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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First of all, thanks for the very solid support offered to people who have not yet spent any money on your product.As a result of this support I am very happy to say that i will be buying Firstspot.I find that the documentation is not all it could be, but the support available through your forum is very positive.
Thanks for the detailed instructions you sent.I have now got a test hotspot up and running.
I am still not sure as to where I was going wrong and have included the information requested below.If there is any obvious problem can you let me know.
Thanks again,
1) Have a clean install of XP SP2 on FirstSpot machine
2) Modify the status and startup type of the following services if necessary
- DHCP Client: Started, Automatic
- DNS Client: Started, Automatic
- Routing and Remote Access: Stopped, Manual
- Windows Firewall/ICS: Stopped, Manual
3) Enable both public and private NICs, make sure public NIC get a valid IP through DHCP
4) Run the command "ping patronsoft.com" and post the result here
Haciendo ping a patronsoft.com [207.58.144.206] con 32 bytes de datos:
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=194ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=192ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=193ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=193ms TTL=54
Estadísticas de ping para 207.58.144.206:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
Mínimo = 192ms, Máximo = 194ms, Media = 193ms
C:\Documents and Settings\spot
5) Install FirstSpot
6) Repeat step 4 after installation completes
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>ping patronsoft.com
Haciendo ping a patronsoft.com [207.58.144.206] con 32 bytes de datos:
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=194ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=192ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=193ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=193ms TTL=54
Estadísticas de ping para 207.58.144.206:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
Mínimo = 192ms, Máximo = 194ms, Media = 193ms
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>
7) Check the services listed in step 2 again, post here if they've any changes
No changes.
8) Reboot the machine
9) Run the command "ipconfig /all" and post the result here
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>ipconfig/all
Configuración IP de Windows
Nombre del host . . . . . . . . . : hotspot-3686705
Sufijo DNS principal . . . . . . :
Tipo de nodo . . . . . . . . . . : desconocido
Enrutamiento habilitado. . . . . .: No
Proxy WINS habilitado. . . . . : No
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local 2 :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS :
Descripción. . . . . . . . . . . : Adaptador Fast Ethernet compatible V
IA
Dirección física. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-4A-24-F9
DHCP habilitado. . . . . . . . . : No
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.9
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada :
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS :
Descripción. . . . . . . . . . . : NIC Fast Ethernet PCI Familia RTL813
9 de Realtek
Dirección física. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-5A-29-D8-89
DHCP habilitado. . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguración habilitada. . . : Sí
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.9
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada : 192.168.0.1
Servidor DHCP . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Servidores DNS . . . . . . . . . .: 192.168.0.1
Concesión obtenida . . . . . . . : martes, 12 de febrero de 2008 18:27:
56
Concesión expira . . . . . . . . .: viernes, 15 de febrero de 2008 18:27
:56
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>
10) Repeat step 4 again
Haciendo ping a patronsoft.com [207.58.144.206] con 32 bytes de datos:
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=195ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=195ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=194ms TTL=54
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=193ms TTL=54
Estadísticas de ping para 207.58.144.206:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
Mínimo = 193ms, Máximo = 195ms, Media = 194ms
C:\Documents and Settings\spot
11) Turn off the DHCP service of your own router in private network
12) Start FirstSpot using FirstSpot's DHCP and check if the following services are started
Could not start firstspot with my dhcp in router turned off.Explorer window with "SERVER NOT FOUND"I then uninstalled Firstspot and re-installed and it started ok.
- ISC BIND
- PatronSoft FirstSpot DHCP Server
- PatronSoft FirstSpot Dispatcher
- PatronSoft FirstSpot Redirector
- Routing and Remote Access
OK ALL STARTED
13) Run the following commands in client machine and post the results here
- ipconfig /release
- ipconfig /renew
- ping patronsoft.com
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>ipconfig/release
Configuración IP de Windows
No se puede realizar ninguna operación en Conexión de área local mientras los me
dios estén desconectados.
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local :
Estado de los medios. . . .: medios desconectados
Adaptador Ethernet Conexiones de red inalámbricas :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS :
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada :
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>ipconfig/renew
Configuración IP de Windows
No se puede realizar ninguna operación en Conexión de área local mientras los me
dios estén desconectados.
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local :
Estado de los medios. . . .: medios desconectados
Adaptador Ethernet Conexiones de red inalámbricas :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS : firstspot.org
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.20.7.167
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada : 10.20.7.1
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>ping patronsoft.com
Haciendo ping a patronsoft.com [207.58.144.206] con 32 bytes de datos:
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=276ms TTL=53
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=457ms TTL=53
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=344ms TTL=53
Respuesta desde 207.58.144.206: bytes=32 tiempo=336ms TTL=53
Estadísticas de ping para 207.58.144.206:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
Mínimo = 276ms, Máximo = 457ms, Media = 353ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario>
14) Login in client machine using sample account and check if client side is able to access the Internet
YES
15) Restart FirstSpot and repeat both steps 13 and 14
16) Stop FirstSpot and reboot the machine
17) Repeat steps 9 and 4 again
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>ping firstsoft.com
La solicitud de ping no pudo encontrar el host firstsoft.com. Compruebe el nombr
e y vuelva a intentarlo.
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>ipconfig/all
Configuración IP de Windows
Nombre del host . . . . . . . . . : hotspot-3686705
Sufijo DNS principal . . . . . . :
Tipo de nodo . . . . . . . . . . : desconocido
Enrutamiento habilitado. . . . . .: No
Proxy WINS habilitado. . . . . : No
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local 2 :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS :
Descripción. . . . . . . . . . . : Adaptador Fast Ethernet compatible V
IA
Dirección física. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-66-4A-24-F9
DHCP habilitado. . . . . . . . . : No
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.20.7.1
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada :
Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local :
Sufijo de conexión específica DNS :
Descripción. . . . . . . . . . . : NIC Fast Ethernet PCI Familia RTL813
9 de Realtek
Dirección física. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-5A-29-D8-89
DHCP habilitado. . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguración habilitada. . . : Sí
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.9
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada : 192.168.0.1
Servidor DHCP . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Servidores DNS . . . . . . . . . .: 192.168.0.1
Concesión obtenida . . . . . . . : martes, 12 de febrero de 2008 19:16:
23
Concesión expira . . . . . . . . .: viernes, 15 de febrero de 2008 19:16
:23
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>
Microsoft Windows XP [Versión 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\spot>ping firstspot.com
Haciendo ping a firstspot.com [150.101.3.230] con 32 bytes de datos:
Respuesta desde 150.101.3.230: bytes=32 tiempo=519ms TTL=44
Respuesta desde 150.101.3.230: bytes=32 tiempo=520ms TTL=44
Respuesta desde 150.101.3.230: bytes=32 tiempo=553ms TTL=44
Respuesta desde 150.101.3.230: bytes=32 tiempo=523ms TTL=44
Estadísticas de ping para 150.101.3.230:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
Mínimo = 519ms, Máximo = 553ms, Media = 528ms
C:\Documents and Settings\spot> |
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dominic Forum facilitator
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Good to see your clear reply and here are some further recommendations for you.
1) In the FirstSpot machine, make sure the service DHCP Client is always started such that the public NIC can obtain IP through DHCP properly.
2) If you choose your own router to provide DHCP service in the private network, your have to ensure the router supports DHCP Relay feature and setup Multiple Network Segments in Configuration Manager. Please refer to chapter 4 in firstspot_guide.pdf for more information. As this is not a one-step process, we suggest you to keep using FirstSpot's DHCP Server for simplicity. |
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